Posts by St George of England

No idea how much but all the funds will be used in charitable works to help hard up JW's and non-JW's that have suffered deprivations over the last year or so. That's what charities do. *

As regards the properties they were all up for sale on a property website run by the WT society, I will see if I can find it.

George

* Feeling a bit sarcastic this morning!

Edit:- IBSAProperty.com

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Leaked David Spane Apostate Rant? (Upcoming Lloyd Evans Video)

by Jofi_Wofo in

lloyd has a reminder set for a "leaked" video that he will be reviewing tomorrow, but it lacks details in the description.

does anyone know what video he is referring to, or is this an upcoming loyd evans exclusive?.

i find leaks exciting, especially if it's something that was never meant to be public and puts some serious egg on the faces of the blundering body..

St George of England

Just watched this, quite unbelievable. Thirty eight minutes of diatribe with no proof or substance for any of it.

However, I think it does reveal how much the internet and social media is hurting them and they know it. If only I was 60 years younger........

George

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Eye-Opener

by ElderStuckin in

each eye-opener in my awakening had nothing to do with apostates.

it was always by looking directly at the so-called spiritual food that helped me awaken.. in 2019 they changed the wording of the second of two baptismal questions which are answered aloud before the audience.

now i realize that these questions have been adjusted over the years.

St George of England

There's got to be some reason for the latest wording change (removing "spirit-directed"). Anybody know (or guess) why? I strongly feel the reason is self-serving.

Personally I think there have been so many disastrous appointments by Holy Spirit, people who have turned out to be be adulterers, rapists, murderers etc. It became very obvious that HS was no way involved in such appointments.

So they have taken the blame away from the Holy Spirit by this move. Now they are appointed by HS only in the sense that they appear to other men to fulfil the requirements for elders, MS's publishers etc as laid out in the Bible. See the quote below:-

Bearing Thorough Witness Page19

22 This incident reminds us of the importance of organization among God’s people. To this day, responsible men are selected to serve as overseers in the congregation. The elders carefully consider the Scriptural qualifications required of such overseers, and they pray for the guidance of holy spirit. The congregation thus views such men as appointed by holy spirit. For our part, we remain submissive and obedient to their lead, promoting a cooperative spirit in the congregation.—Heb. 13:17.

George

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Eye-Opener

by ElderStuckin in

each eye-opener in my awakening had nothing to do with apostates.

it was always by looking directly at the so-called spiritual food that helped me awaken.. in 2019 they changed the wording of the second of two baptismal questions which are answered aloud before the audience.

now i realize that these questions have been adjusted over the years.

St George of England

Green JW history book (the name escapes me at the moment

Jehovah's Witnesses Proclaimers of God's Kingdom - 1993

Jehovah's Witnesses in the Divine Purpose - 1959

George

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Do the dubs do the songs at the Zoom Meetings?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?

St George of England

You should also be standing for the song, and especially the prayers. I'm too old so remain seated anyway but it's quite funny to see all the waists as the top part is cut off because very few adjust their camera accordingly.

The latest thing on our ZOOM is quite a few move to a different room or different part of the room. Show off their latest redecorating skills or picture collection. Most of the pre and post meeting chatter is about decorating or the new kitchen, conservatory etc. Really spiritual.

George

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Eye-Opener

by ElderStuckin in

each eye-opener in my awakening had nothing to do with apostates.

it was always by looking directly at the so-called spiritual food that helped me awaken.. in 2019 they changed the wording of the second of two baptismal questions which are answered aloud before the audience.

now i realize that these questions have been adjusted over the years.

St George of England

Baptismal Questions

w42 10/1, p. 302

"(1) Do you believe in Jehovah God the Father, that 'salvation belongeth unto Jehovah', and that Christ Jesus is his Son in whose blood your sins are washed away and by whom salvation comes to you from God? (2) Have you therefore confessed your sins to God and asked for cleansing by Christ Jesus, and therefore turned away from sin and the world, and consecrated yourself without reservation to God to do his will?"

w56 7/1 p. 407

"20 (1) Have you recognized yourself before Jehovah God as a sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him the Father through his Son Jesus Christ?

21 (2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightenment of the holy spirit?"

w66 8/1 p. 465

"(1) Have you recognized yourself before Jehovah God as a sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his Son Jesus Christ?

(2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit?"

w73 5/1 p. 280

"(1) Have you repented of your sins and turned around, recognizing yourself before Jehovah God as a condemned sinner who needs salvation, and have you acknowledged to him that this salvation proceeds from him, the Father, through his Son Jesus Christ?

(2) On the basis of this faith in God and in his provision for salvation, have you dedicated yourself unreservedly to God to do his will henceforth as he reveals it to you through Jesus Christ and through the Bible under the enlightening power of the holy spirit?"

w85 6/1 p. 30

"The first question is:

On the basis of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ, have you repented of your sins and dedicated yourself to Jehovah to do his will?

The second is:

Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with God's spirit-directed organization?"

w87 4/15 p. 12

Footnote: "Recently the two questions addressed to baptismal candidates were simplified so that candidates could answer with full comprehension of what is involved in coming into intimate relationship with God and his earthly organization."

1. Have you repented of your sins, dedicated yourself to Jehovah, and accepted his way of salvation through Jesus Christ?

2. Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?

Od p 206-7 - 2019

See previous od book (2015)

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I think Splane is the Cult Leader. And I think there are more apostates working on the inside than we can imagine.

by pistolpete in

so in the latest leaked video, splane goes on this crazy delusional rant about how faithful witnesses should never research their faith.. he criticizes the worldly court system and says they are not fair toward witnesses and the organization.

he says the court system is rigged and witnesses who get convicted, (implied child sex abusers) are innocent.

he is literally trying to justify child molesters and elders who cover them, as good people in "god's eyes" even though "human authorities" may judge them and put them in jail.

St George of England

Saturday afternoon session not released until next Monday (26 July).

George

PS Think it may be the Lloyd Evans video. May be quicker to wait until next week........

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I think Splane is the Cult Leader. And I think there are more apostates working on the inside than we can imagine.

by pistolpete in

so in the latest leaked video, splane goes on this crazy delusional rant about how faithful witnesses should never research their faith.. he criticizes the worldly court system and says they are not fair toward witnesses and the organization.

he says the court system is rigged and witnesses who get convicted, (implied child sex abusers) are innocent.

he is literally trying to justify child molesters and elders who cover them, as good people in "god's eyes" even though "human authorities" may judge them and put them in jail.

St George of England

Do we have to wait another week for this to be listed on jdub.org? Or is there a link to the leaked version?

George

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Anyone get the feeling that the cult is really in trouble.

by mickbobcat in

so all the bs and hyperbole aside, to me it really looks like the cult is in trouble.

shrinking member, selling halls.

the move to televangelism is really strange to me.

St George of England

It’s almost time for the GB to be raptured to the Cayman Islands, or a country with no extradition to the US. Perhaps they would enjoy North Korea. Lol

Or maybe Argentina. No extradition from there I think. On the GB Update #6 by Sam Herd yesterday he said work is continuing on that project with the help of outside contractors. Not been too much about that project so let's see what happens.

George